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Old 29-07-12   #1 (permalink)
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Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

Hi there, just a query.

I've noticed some tractors take the same oil in the engine as in the transmission!

Is this ok for when running log splitters etc?

Also you can just use universal tractor oil in either...

What do you use?

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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

my renault has diesel engine oil in the engine & hydraulic oil in the transmission ,

think most are the same
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

Any tractor mounted splitter will run just fine on UTO, it's a bit thicker than hydraulic oil but the application is robust enough that it won't matter
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

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Hi there, just a query.

I've noticed some tractors take the same oil in the engine as in the transmission!

Is this ok for when running log splitters etc?

Also you can just use universal tractor oil in either...

What do you use?

Cheers
I'll check out our Massey 4345 - seems odd to me?
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

The oils are the same vsc. Trans oil is the same numbers as engine. Check out when you next go to a motor factors.

Don't most tractors use the hydraulic oil as trans and hydraulics?
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

UTO is thicker than regular hyduralic. It will be fine for a splitter but it doesn't work well in chippers as it's too thick.

We have it in a 4345 and it works fine with the loader, 4 in 1 and log grab. I know you cant use UTO in a Valtra because of the wet breaks they sort of overheat and seize if you don't use ValtraTrans.
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The oils are the same vsc. Trans oil is the same numbers as engine. Check out when you next go to a motor factors.

Don't most tractors use the hydraulic oil as trans and hydraulics?
Moden tractors have some exotic back end oils, early ones are happy enough on universal. Don't use universal on back ends designed for lighter oils, you will get all sorts of problems.
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

owners manual says 20s 30w i think or UTO for both engine and transmission (older tractor)
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Re: Engine oil and transmission oil Tractors

Modern tractors with oil immersed (wet ) brakes, and complex gearboxes and hydraulics, need more additives in the oil to preserve the brakes than can be added to a universal oil which will be used in the engine as well. hence the modern trend away from universal oil, to dedicated oil.
Failure to use the correct oil in these situations will lead to rapid brake wear with the worn material passing around the hydraulic system causing expensive failure.

Older tractors with dry brakes could usually use Universal Tractor Oil, whist the early wet brake tractors with simple hydraulic systems and manual transmissions needed Super Universal which had more wet brake additive.

Any of the systems and oils are ok with the logsplitter.
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