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Unconventional Fungi


David Humphries
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You can buy all the Id books under the sun, but the one thing that is paramount to be open to, is...........

 

 

Fungi don't do convention :001_rolleyes:

 

 

Here's a couple of examples.

Both relatively recent finds.

 

Grifola frondosa - Hen of the Woods.

Widely percived as a deep central root decay fungi.

 

This is what's said in some of the texts.........

 

Keizer - "at the base & on roots or stumps of Oak"

Lonsdale - "virtually confined to Quercus, usually in a basal flute of the tree".

Jordans - "Usually arrising from the base of the trunk"

Webber/Mattheck - "Stem base, roots"

Butin - "at the base of older trees"

 

Fair enough they mostly all use the vague wording of Usually in a..., Usually arrising from....

 

But no shots of the FB's in non typical situations.

Well that aint no help is it !

 

Time the Id resources got up to scratch, oh yeah, hold on a mo, those good chaps & chapesses at Arbtalk are already raising the game aint they :001_tt2:

 

Here's what's normally posted as an atypycal shot in the books......

& here's Mrs Hen in a rare but not unheard of location......

 

Any one else got examples of Grifola or any others in "unusual" situations ?

 

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Here's another from the vague vaults of Fungoid identification.

 

Inonotus dryadeus - The Oak Bracket.

 

Text books say......

 

 

Jordans - "at the base of the trunk"

Luley - "at ground level attached at the base of large trees"

Keizer - not even listed

Lonsdale - " almost invariably at the base of large old trees"

Weber/Mattheck - Stem base, root butresses

Butin - not listed

Collins - often at base

 

.........yet here in the last four shots, is the poor unfortunate Mr Dryad feeling all lonely as inspectors are too busy looking down to see him :001_rolleyes:

 

So again, first shot is the usual fare from the texts, and then up on the trunk of this fine old vet.......

 

Interested to hear if anyone else is finding this one at height?

 

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How about Pholiota squarosus at 4 metres?

 

A root decay parasite, predominantly of Ash/beech

 

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Couple of shots to back yours up.

 

Here on Beech at around 2/3m

 

Phillips states "Habitat in dense clusters at the base of deciduous and very occasionally coniferous trees"

Collins doesn't pin down location/situation other than "on dead & living wood of deciduous trees, or rarely conifers"

 

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Hello there,

 

May I 'butt' in please ? This little fellow seems more like Pholiota adiposa than squarosa and this would be a typical place for it to pop out.

 

EDIT: Looking more closely, I must say I'm now unsure (how do insert an embarrassed face !) - the cap doesn't look sticky and those 'squamules' stand too tall, so yes, it must be squarosa.

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That's a very interesting grenade to chuck in there Neil :biggrin:

 

Haven't got adiposa in many of my references.

 

Host certainly fits, though the stipe looks a little out as these are pretty scaly all the way up, as opposed to adiposa which I thimk stop at the ring :confused1:

 

Mmmmmmmmm

 

Interesting that Phillips (US) shots (show it on what looks like Oak) but he references it on stumps of Beech.

 

Rogers Mushrooms - Pholiota adiposa Mushroom

 

 

 

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it would be unlikely as a mis or cross identify with Adiposa/Squarosa.

 

one is more likely to confuse Aurivella with Adiposa, and im not entirely convinced there is much to seperate them, but im still trying to whittle down some of its key features so i may well be back in a mo, interesting little point, and well worth a little dig around the archives.

 

The one thing that appears to be different at a purely visual level thus far is that adiposa appears to have viel remnants and a white tipped fringe to the cap.

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Argh, this is getting interesting, I doubt very much if most people could distinguish P. aurivella from P. adiposa!

 

without a scope, the only real defining idents

 

Aurivella, smells sweet and has an evervescent band where the partial ring/veil remains.

 

adiposa, smells radishy and has little ring to speak of.

 

I am now going to have to go over ALL my Aurivella shots and look a LOT closer.

 

Forest Imp, respect due.

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