Buying roundwood softwood - by M3 or Tonne

[arboriculturist]

I'm just looking for others views on buying loads of Softwood Roundwood by the m3 rather than by the Tonne.

 

We have been offered Roundwood roadside 1/ Green and 2/ Chip (down for 18 months on bearers) for the same price.

 

Transport is charged to us at £10 -12 on per Tonne basis whatever we have.

 

On 8 wheeler we get 17.5 tonne green or 24 tonne approx part-seasoned chip.

 

I would welcome your view on which is the best buy, bearing in mind we don't need to buy Roundwood that is part-seasoned.

 

Hoping my maths is in a similar ball park as everyone elses.

[farmer rod]

are we assuming the the 17.5t of green is the dried weight of the wood?

[arboriculturist]

are we assuming the the 17.5t of green is the dried weight of the wood?

 

An 8 wheeler carries 17.5 T average - of green wood.

[farmer rod]

An 8 wheeler carries 17.5 T average - of green wood.

 

so how do you get 24t of seasoned ?

[arboriculturist]

so how do you get 24t of seasoned ?

 

An 8 wheeler carries 24T approx - of part seasoned chip wood.

 

Any of the big Firewood boys on Arbtalk tonight, as they will have all the data in their head ready to reel off ?

[Chrisy B]

so how do you get 24t of seasoned ?

 

Im struggling to see how this works too .

[Logsnstuff]

you won't get 24 ton on an artic if it's seasoned or part at 18 months It's more likely going to be 15t or less so at a green price I would go tonnage, going by cube is wasting money. unless it's been sitting in a manky wet hole and taken on weight ofc that might change things.

[arboriculturist]

Im struggling to see how this works too .

 

Sorry typo on 1st post.

 

Buy Green - On 8 wheeler we get 17.5 tonne

 

Buy part-seasoned Chip wood - On 8 wheeler we get 24m3 ( = 17.5 tonne)

 

Both options are the same price.

 

Transport is charged to us at £10 -12 on per Tonne basis whatever we have.

[arboriculturist]

you won't get 24 ton on an artic if it's seasoned or part at 18 months It's more likely going to be 15t or less so at a green price I would go tonnage, going by cube is wasting money. unless it's been sitting in a manky wet hole and taken on weight ofc that might change things.

 

Sorry there was a typo on 1st post - should read 24m3 part-seasoned on an 8 wheeler.

 

Whenever Softwood has been sitting roadside for any length of time - whoever it is always wants to sell it to us by the m3. We never get a say on the matter.

 

I am just looking for some number crunching from others on if it works out much more expensive to buy part-seasoned roundwood by the m3 rather than green per tonne.

[cornish wood burner]

We used to buy at the rate of 1.1 cubic metre = 1tonne

So assuming you mean same price per CM or tonne you are losing volume but gaining transport cost. Assuming you pay about the same as us you will lose £19 per load. Or at least I think that what it was when I worked it out earlier in the day. You will not need to dry so long of course.