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A lot depends on how its tied though, a loose distel is more scarey than a tight helical, although a really loose vt is probably the most suicidal of them all....

At least with the helical the tightness of the hitch is permanently set with the bowline, as long as it grips reliably I cant see its any less secure than a distel.

should a helical be tied only using 10mm as its tied on a single leg and 8mm needs both ends clipped to crab
thoughts????

You can tie both ends in.

In my book your uber cool but my mrs just said i'm sad too, still what do they know.

Have to say I'm still liking the Howard Hitch, performed really well today on a big climb.

I'll second that Tom.

Just been using it on main line with the Hc all last week, suits my style nicely

Although.........whilst chatting with Rich Allmond around this a few weeks back, he then went and phoned Paul Howard, who then said; he doesn't actually use it himself these days.
Apparantly prefers the Vt.


Appologies Alex, I don't really have any experience on the Helical

Here's a shot of an post climb/badly dressed Howards

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Without the HC I think the VT wins hands down but with the HC the Howard is king. IME to make a VT work properly with the HC you need quite long legs (on the hitch), that means you have a lot of sitback when ascending or foot locking, the howard can be tied shorter and still perform well.

Thanks fo the inspiration, will try the Helicoil next Week !

But the one from Drew B looks definitly different than Rupe's or the one from the Caver-Site

Cheers,
Max

I'm sure there many ways, mine is by no means "the" way.

Can you give a link to the other pics or show them here?

OH, this one of Drews??

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/attachmen...lp-helical.jpg

It is the same as mine but without the pulley shown.